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Coffee, Cheese on the Side / Porter Cheddar

Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:45 PM EDT
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By Aristippos

A strong Coffee accompanied by a Vintage Cheddar with Irish Porter

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We humans have our customs. Those develop for various reasons, like tradition, practicality, knowledge or even out of strange, very individual decisions. One of these customs is eating biscuits, cakes or similar sweet things with our coffee. Another one is ending lengthy meals with a fine assortment of cheeses.

I have just discovered a cheese that screams to become the union of these two customs.

Two great traditions and typical products from Great Britain are cheddar cheese and porter beer. A present I recently received consists of a Vintage Cheddar with Irish Porter.

Until now I had never seen cheddar as a seduction, but this combination with porter, accompanying an intense coffee with a bit of sugar, could very well become one of my pleasure customs in the near future.

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knightofdespair

Sounds tasty!

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:28 PM EDT
steven-791492

Does sound good. I will look into that cheese. thanks

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:35 PM EDT
CL1

Interesting; certainly not something that I would have ever considered before reading this.

But I am no expert. Just consider me a reliable storyteller, what might bring you more knowledge and thus much more joy.

We can all use a lot more knowledge and a little more joy. Thank you.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:23 AM EDT
Knotthaid

I make country style buttermilk drop biscuits with cubed extra sharp cheddar, garlic powder, ground cayenne pepper and a hint of oregano mixed in the batter. Top with dehydrated minced onion (which becomes toasted in the oven). Great with coffee.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:48 PM EDT
Aristippos

Amazing! Thanks for telling me this, Knotthaid.

I am always to find out about what others are experimenting with in connection with coffee.

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:50 PM EDT
CL1

The 'only' natural combination, for me, regarding coffee - is to combine it with something sweet, either in it or with it. I struggle to keep it 'black' and omit the sugar, and 99% of the time I succeed. Every once in awhile I splurge and enjoy it the way I like it best - a vanilla latte with sugar or a mocha with cream (or creme brulee with extra sugar). The notion of drinking coffee with a food that doesn't include sugar is new to me. ...In fact, if I have more than one cup of coffee, I start craving sweets ...but I don't generally give-in. ..Something about the acids in the coffee, maybe.

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:16 PM EDT
Aristippos

Thank you for your comment CL1

As you might already know, I dwell intensively upon ways to use coffee. The reason I write about it and have blogs in different languages for is NOT that I am a fan of coffee, rather because it is this single fruit/seed/drink that allows me to handle many topics important to me. Some of these are alchemy, nature and culture (our abilities as humans). Coffee is among others the very unification of these three. Like vanilla and a few other products we commonly use, coffee is not a product of nature, but a combination of complex steps, the right composition and much tuning, giving us a cup of Ethiopian coffee and/or an espresso. Without our handling and manipulation of the vanilla pod and the coffee seed, these heavenly flavours would not exist.

Hence I find it tricky to think of the "natural" combination.

Could however well follow that this is your favourite way to enjoy coffee.

And - believe me - 25 years ago I would have never even imagined using coffee in some of the combinations I have discovered in the last 5 years. And I must admit, I find this cheese-coffee combination is quite unimaginable before comes to physically trying it.

    Reply#7 - Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:30 PM EDT
    CL1

    Thank you, that was a very interesting reply, and I appreciated reading it.

    The reason I write about it and have blogs in different languages for is NOT that I am a fan of coffee, rather because it is this single fruit/seed/drink that allows me to handle many topics important to me.

    Ok, that explains quite a bit. Thank you.

    Some of these are alchemy, nature and culture (our abilities as humans).

    I see, you are experimenting with the 'chemistry' and chemical reactions of foods in combination with the bean/seed/drink, and the various "tuning" or processes we put them through to achieve different results.

    You are probably right that 'sweet' is a favorite way to enjoy coffee or tea -- yet, neither one ever seems palatable to me without sugar (I drink them without sugar on purpose) - and as I mentioned, if I don't include sugar (or any form of it), then I get an immediate reaction - a sugar craving. For me, there is a definite internal chemical reaction happening. ...Similar to chocolate - chocolate without sugar immediately causes me to crave sugar. ....Food chemistry is something I've paid attention to for several years. I'm aware of several combinations that appear to cause 'cravings' - for me. :)

      #7.1 - Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:07 PM EDT
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      lauhal

      Mmmmm...life's simple pleasures! Thanks for your articles. They nudge me to think a little more creatively. :)

      • 2 votes
      Reply#8 - Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:08 PM EDT
      Aristippos

      "tuning":

      Yes, think of how much a roaster could do with the profile of any batch of coffee. Think also of the hundreds of possibilities of any coffee, depending on the soil it grew (South America, Africa or Asia), the altitude and how any roaster deals with those differences when roasting to various levels of darkness and lightness.

      However, "experimenting", "chemistry" and "tuning" sound too much like a laboratory. Above ALL, for me is one singular condition: food must taste good. Every "experiment" must bring me a step or several steps in the direction of better flavour, better "understanding" of what is available out there, be it simplicity or the orchestration of 101 ingredients in one single spoon. I am a composer and do drawing since my childhood, so creativity and composing is in my blood, but an espresso MUST taste good with sugar and good without.

      Think about the usual process of starting with sweet red wines before learning to appreciate and taste the important complexities of dry red wines. But besides the usual process of learing to love different flavours, there are also concrete directions in which every individual tends to go. Some might learn to appreciate blue cheese, but simply do not like the taste. Some love to put chili in each plate, others refuse to. Some die for licorice, others hate it. Also, sugar is a very unique thing. It makes many changes in perhaps every food we mix it with, not only in terms of flavour.

      All in all, I just like to experience as much as possible with my palate. This little dark chamber is fabulous!

      By the way, that is interesting that when not using sugar in chocolate, you crave for sugar. For me it seems to be the opposite. I find that when I use sugar in a cappuccino, I drink it much quicker than without.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#9 - Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:04 PM EDT
      CL1

      Think about the usual process of starting with sweet red wines before learning to appreciate and taste the important complexities of dry red wines

      Yes; I understand your point. Sometimes, with certain foods, 'progressions' seem to be necessary for appreciation. In my case, coffee became a part of my diet quite young (around age 10 or 11), and 'black' - no sugar. It seemed like a 'natural' for me, as I took to it very quickly and easily. Whether my mother made a good choice or not, we don't know. ;)

      But besides the usual process of learning to love different flavours, there are also concrete directions in which every individual tends to go

      Yes, I agree. "Black" coffee originally seemed quite 'right,' and 'sometimes' still does when it's a really good blend. Coffe is acidic and so is sugar. I wondered if my body developed a 'need' of some kind to balance or 'counter' something in the coffee that causes the craving. I guess I'll never know. Possibly having something to do with hydrolysis. ...I don't worry about it or the 'alchemy' -chemistry- part of it. ..Just what tastes the best for the most part.

      Also, sugar is a very unique thing. It makes many changes in perhaps every food we mix it with, not only in terms of flavour.

      I agree; i.e., tomato sauce or sauces containing tomatoes. Sugar not only enhances flavor, but it alters the acidity (what I wondered about in combining it with coffee). It's quite possible that certain types of sugar have unique properties that we don't know about.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#10 - Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:50 PM EDT
      Aristippos

      indeed... different sugars, different amounts, different preparations. Everything has various reactions. I find it highly important to simply investigate further and further, with the great hope that our palates stay awake to enjoy this universe of flavours.

        Reply#11 - Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT
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